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    Hi,

    A new version of the monkey is now available : 2006.1.5.3.

    The next release 1.6.0 ( code completion + gdb integration ) is checkable via svn : svn://monkeystudio.org/monkeystudio/trunk/2006.1.6.0

    The team is preparing monkey v2 witch will finally a total rewrite with a maximum of abstract class to allow a maximum of extension.

    U can download the current release here : 2006.1.5.3

    U can install the application via "make install" under linux/unix/mac.

    Don't forgot to have a look at the 1.6.0 witch is the first beta with code completion / gdb integration, and feedback me, thanks.

    P@sNox,

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Doesn't look too bad.
    But it could use a class view (I installed the stable version since the unstable got me a uncorrupted zip file), and it would be good if you could add the features of each release on the home page.
    It is VERY similar to QDevelop, I think it could be an interesting idea if the two projects would merge and cooperate.
    This will result in a fast evolution of a good Qt4 cross platform IDE, instead of going half speed in parallel...

    Continue the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by high_flyer View Post
    Doesn't look too bad.
    But it could use a class view (I installed the stable version since the unstable got me a uncorrupted zip file), and it would be good if you could add the features of each release on the home page.
    It is VERY similar to QDevelop, I think it could be an interesting idea if the two projects would merge and cooperate.
    This will result in a fast evolution of a good Qt4 cross platform IDE, instead of going half speed in parallel...

    Continue the good work!
    Thanks!

    First, could u say me witch release is corrupted ?!

    Secondly, don't tell monkey team why there is a lot of Qt 4 IDE, Monkey Studio ( Qt4DS ) was the first Qt 4 IDE, then some guys decide to create alternative / concurrent / clone instead of joining me and continuing / creating a new best Qt 4 IDE.
    It would be the best choice in times, but for now, it seem that nobody want this .... so good luck.

    Each IDE got its power and failure, try them and do your choice

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Secondly, don't tell monkey team why there is a lot of Qt 4 IDE, Monkey Studio ( Qt4DS ) was the first Qt 4 IDE, then some guys decide to create alternative / concurrent / clone instead of joining me and continuing / creating a new best Qt 4 IDE.
    I'm not quite sure of that but I guess there's no point arguing who was the first to offer something usable, and even less who started the first...

    It would be the best choice in times, but for now, it seem that nobody want this .... so good luck.
    Does it ? Did you ask jlbrd or me about such a merging??? I can't remeber that I'm afraid... So you can't say that nobody wants it", can you?

    Each IDE got its power and failure, try them and do your choice
    I second this.
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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Quote Originally Posted by fullmetalcoder View Post
    I'm not quite sure of that but I guess there's no point arguing who was the first to offer something usable, and even less who started the first...
    Define usable...

    Qt Code:
    1. int main(){
    2. return 0;
    3. }
    To copy to clipboard, switch view to plain text mode 

    Is this usable?

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    First, could u say me witch release is corrupted ?!
    I did - the unstable version (the beta).(2006.1.0.0RC2c).
    Secondly, don't tell monkey team why there is a lot of Qt 4 IDE,
    Why are you so defensive?
    I was just offering what I regard as I good idea, if you don't think so, that's ok, but there is no need to be so hostile.
    Monkey Studio ( Qt4DS ) was the first Qt 4 IDE, then some guys decide to create alternative / concurrent / clone instead of joining me and continuing / creating a new best Qt 4 IDE
    That may very well be true, but it doesn't change the fact that multiple teams that work in parallel, will achieve progress less quickly (and probably not as good) as when they join forces.
    Each IDE got its power and failure, try them and do your choice
    I have, and will try them.
    My choice of use is irrelevant.
    My choice of reaction was to give both constructive criticism, to help you improve your IDE.
    (If I had the time, I would join the effort, but at the moment, I don't.)

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Quote Originally Posted by high_flyer View Post
    (If I had the time, I would join the effort, but at the moment, I don't.)
    Lol... being blown into deep space?

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Quote Originally Posted by wysota View Post
    Define usable...
    Something usable is something that allows the user do to something. In the particular case of an IDE it basically means :
    • editing source files
    • managing project files
    • compiling projects

    Quote Originally Posted by wysota View Post
    Qt Code:
    1. int main(){
    2. return 0;
    3. }
    To copy to clipboard, switch view to plain text mode 
    Is this usable?
    Nop... It compile and runs but doesn't do anything useful...
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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Quote Originally Posted by wysota View Post
    Lol... being blown into deep space?
    hehe... actually TAHT projects on its own is not the main problem...
    Its more at work that I am busy, and the rest indeed goes to THAT project... (and some private issues)
    As you noticed, I haven't even got around to post my DevDays summary...
    I got it finished on paper, but only about 30% typed...
    Earth is a problematic planet, only 24hours per day... so short...

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    @fullmetalcoder: Does it ? Did you ask jlbrd or me about such a merging??? I can't remeber that I'm afraid... So you can't say that nobody wants it", can you?

    As long as remember, Qt4DS was the first and usable Qt 4 IDE out, u and others create yours, without speaking with me about, so, why i would ask u joining force, as u already create somethings different regardless the qt4ds project without talk about ?

    @high_flyer: Why are you so defensive?
    I was just offering what I regard as I good idea, if you don't think so, that's ok, but there is no need to be so hostile.

    Sorry if u think i'm hostile, i'm not

    That may very well be true, but it doesn't change the fact that multiple teams that work in parallel, will achieve progress less quickly (and probably not as good) as when they join forces.

    sure.

    The current unstable is not 2006.1.0.0RC2c but 1.6.0 available at svn://monkeystudio.org/monkeystudio/trunk/2006.1.6.0


    I really need 1.6.0 feedback ( gdb part ) thanks reporting bugs / errors / new ideas.

    P@Nox,

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Quote Originally Posted by pasnox View Post
    As long as remember, Qt4DS was the first and usable Qt 4 IDE out, u and others create yours, without speaking with me about, so, why i would ask u joining force, as u already create somethings different regardless the qt4ds project without talk about ?
    To clarify things I think it is important to mention that the (small) number of days that separate DevQt and Qt4Ds creation is not what really matters. What happened is that DevQt was announced on QtCentre.org and not on QtFr.org while Qy4DS did the exact contrary. None of us knew about the other thus none can blame the other one for starting its own project... Another point is that even if you started first and announced it everywhere, nobody would have been to join since the project didn't have sf.net/Berlios account nor SVN. finally if we were to merge ther would be a few questions that may very well prevent it even if they look quite stupid :
    • what would be the nam of the merged project
    • which code would be used as a base
    • how will the team be organised (project leadership issue...)
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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Hello,

    I have tried the Monkey Studio IDE and have two remarks :
    - When I open a .pro file on a network station, path something like : //Computername/Share/Path/To/Pro/File i will get an error when i try to compile this (with MinGW). The cause of this is probably because the path is defined as UNC path and not using the drive letter (S:/Path/To/Pro/File). Maybe the "working directory" can be added as an option to the project settings ?
    - When i execute the program from the IDE, i get a message box asking for command line options. Can these not be set as a project option ? It is faster.

    Cedric.

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Quote Originally Posted by fullmetalcoder View Post
    To clarify things I think it is important to mention that the (small) number of days that separate DevQt and Qt4Ds creation is not what really matters. What happened is that DevQt was announced on QtCentre.org and not on QtFr.org while Qy4DS did the exact contrary. None of us knew about the other thus none can blame the other one for starting its own project... Another point is that even if you started first and announced it everywhere, nobody would have been to join since the project didn't have sf.net/Berlios account nor SVN. finally if we were to merge ther would be a few questions that may very well prevent it even if they look quite stupid :
    • what would be the nam of the merged project
    • which code would be used as a base
    • how will the team be organised (project leadership issue...)
    Monkey Studio ( and Qt4DS int time ) is registered on sourceforge, cvs acces is too old, and the new svn is accessible.

    If merge ... maybe need something from scratch , i think
    Name will be discuss, and team organisation need to be discuss too

    But before this, it would be nice to join #qtfr on freenode to speak about a possible merge of french Qt 4 IDE with all person concerned

    Sorry for my bad english

    @glocker50: Using monkey like this is not recommended, could u give more details ?!
    Before compiling, the process is executed from the projet directory.
    Maybe the command line box need a checkable item to disable it.

    Thanks, P@sNox,

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Hi,

    Monkey Studio Team is happy to inform you that a beta version of the 1.6.0 is available, as a new feature we can tell u that debugger is now part of the IDE with the gdb integration for linux/windows.
    As we don't have Mac OS X machine, any feedback for this OS is needed ( as for others too )

    Download page : 2006.1.6.0-d-1.0.1

    P@sNox,

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    I'm not very familiar with svn, is there a command I can run to get the latest version in the svn repository, so I can compile it an live on the bleeding edge?

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    Hi,

    U can read the wiki page here : http://trac.monkeystudio.org/wiki/BuildSource

    P@sNox,

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Hi,

    The Monkeys ( Monkey Studio Team ) are happy to inform you that the new webpage is now up !

    Please update your bookmarks : http://www.monkeystudio.org

    This is the place where u will be able to use, forums, trac, wiki, bugs reports and so on!
    As a christmas present, i had Monkey Studio 2 screenshot on the Screenshots page.

    Cheers, Happy new year, P@sNox,

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Hi,

    A new beta version of the monkey is now available on svn : 1.6.0-d-1.0.2.

    The new last, and official svn access is :
    svn : svn://monkeystudio.org/monkeyrepos

    Feature vs 1.5.3 :
    * Code completion ( require ctags )
    * Gdb integration ( Windows / Linux / maybe mac )

    Thinks for feedback please thanks, the v2 seem great, stays tuned

    P@sNox,

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    Exclamation A small step for a Monkey,

    A small step for a Monkey,
    but a giant leap for Qt4 Developers that which to develop Qt4 Applications on multiple Platforms with the same IDE. Well thats what _we_ think. Today you can check out what was cooking over the past months and we would really like to hear what _you_ think. Is it really a giant leap or is it just another IDE? Tell us.

    So what are the features that you will be enjoying in this Monkey Studio 2 Preview release v1.8.0.0 ?

    Monkey Studio is able to fully manage a project based on qmake. The Assistant and designer are now fully integrated into the IDE. Define your own Code Snippets to speed up repetitive tasks. Write file Templates for various file types. The QScintilla Component that we use, offers Syntax Higlighting for a lot of lanugages. Define which lexer is to load on what file suffix. Ctags offers support for Class browsing. Generate and load your own 'api' files at runtime to have code completion for about any lib you want.

    With it's great and highly flexible plugins api, you can extends it really simply to fit your needs.

    So, you see there is a lot to discover and as said, please give us some feedback on what you think. Either on the forums (http://forums.monkeystudio.org), the irc channel (#monkeystudio on freenode) or the mailinglist users@monkeystudio.org (to subscribe see: http://lists.monkeystudio.org/cgi-bi...listinfo/users).

    Home Page : http://www.monkeystudio.org
    Sourceforge page: http://www.sf.net/projects/monkeystudio

    Azevedo Filipe, and The Monkey Studio Team

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    Default Re: Monkey Studio - Free crossplatfrom Qt4 IDE ( oldest Qt4DS )

    Hi,

    I know this question is a bit off topic, but could you try to explain why the Monkey Studio is a better choice than Eclipse 3.3 ? I have been using Eclipse for a while, but still want to be up to date with current QT(related) IDEs. Is MS said to be as good as Eclipse, is said to be an alternative to Eclipse... etc? What are you aiming for?

    I just would like to extend my knowledge and maybe try the MStudio, but still I am hesitating.

    Thanks for your answers.

    Maverick

    P.S.

    Still I think I am going to try Monkey Studio, at least to learn sth new.
    Qt allows you to use everything you want
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